Monday, January 09, 2006

Conventional Wisdom on Governor's Race Isn't

Every media outlet worth its salt is touting State Treasurer Judy Baar Topinka as the GOP's great white hope to take the governor's mansion from Democrat Rod Blagojevich. While I am personally fond of Topinka, I think her nomination would lead many of us in the GOP to long for the good old days of Alan Keyes.

The irony is that in a head to head battle Topinka would have a reasonable shot at ousting Blagojevich. Problem is it would come at the cost of devastating Republicans in the down-ballot races. In southern Illinois, where the GOP has quietly been making gains while Chicago and suburban organizations have gone on life support, we would see a bloodbath.

The media sees Topinka as a moderate - and that is probably a fair assessment of her. Her views differ little from those of businessman Ron Gidwitz. Yet if Gidwitz were to win the nomination, few Republicans of any ideological stripe would stay home for the general in protest.
The difference is in how the two relate to the Republican base. Gidwitz has been rock solid in his support of Republicans. Topinka frequently plays footsie with Democrats - and sometimes overtly supports them. Though Gidwitz is a moderate, there are a raft of cases where he has passionately worked on behalf of conservatives. When Gidwitz is challenged on, say, his softness on the Right-to-Life issue, his response is to note that...while I don't agree with you on everything, I share your commitment to putting an end to partial-birth abortion and making parental notification the law of the state. When Topinka is challenged on the same, her response is some variation of...when are you nutjobs going to figure out that only a moderate can win in Illinois?

Topinka has, at times, been unjustly maligned by conservative activists. Her response, though, has always been calculated to inflame, rather than damp down, the situation. And she has shown the same casual contempt for conservatives who actually try to work with her. Last year, when asked on a Chicago radio station who should replace her as party chairman, she replied it had to be Andy McKenna or one of the "crazies" would get it. There were several good reasons to support McKenna - his ties to the Chicago business community, his ability to raise money, and the finance committee's endorsement of him. But McKenna's main challenger was Steve McGlynn, a conservative who was Topinka's co-chairman. Perfectly fine for her to support McKenna, but to casually dismiss a conservative who had worked loyally with her for several years as just another "crazy" illuminated her mindset.

Gidwitz plays by the same rules he asks everyone else to play by - support the Republican nominee vigorously even if you have some ideological differences. Topinka goes out of her way to insult and undercut even those conservatives who try to work with her. In some cases, she overtly supports the Democrat. And she expects conservatives to rally round her candidacy? It's not going to happen.

The odds are she won't get the chance, regardless of media enthusiasm and infusions of Washington money (yes, Washington is weighing in on her behalf. Much as I admire this White House, it has had nothing but a tin ear concerning Illinois Republican politics; perhaps because Illinois has played no role in its election strategies or perhaps because Bob Kjellander is its primary source of local intelligence). She always needed a heavy crossover of Democratic voters to pull it off. With Ed Eisendrath challenging Blagojevich in the Democratic primary, the multitudes of Democratic voters who are disgusted with the governor can stay home to cast their protest vote.

Meantime, conservative Republican voters fear a Topinka administration would consist of four years of trying to destroy conservatives from within the party followed by a sitting Republican governor heading up "Republicans for Lisa Madigan" in 2010. So they are focused on uniting behind a single candidate.

As things stand the gubernatorial primary is evolving into a head-to-head clash between Topinka and businessman Jim Oberweis. While activists are concerned about Oberweis' past penchant for making critical errors, he has a solid organization and the resources to run hard. State Sen. Bill Brady, whose campaign was coming on strong during the summer and early fall, hit the doldrums during Jim Edgar's hamlet routine and has never recovered its lost momentum. If Oberweis did make a big blunder, it could put Brady back into the ballgame. But Oberweis is aware that this time he is in position to win and will be very careful to fully vet his public pronouncements. Gidwitz has a ton of money and is willing to spend it. He has two problems, though. As accomplished as he is, he just does not connect well with voters. He does not have what, in media circles, is called a strong Q-factor. Second, even if he begins to make inroads, it comes at Topinka's expense, not Oberweis'.

There are two and a half months to go. A lot can happen in that time. But under current dynamics, the finish line to the Republican Gubernatorial Primary will look a lot like this:

Oberweis - 44%
Topinka - 36%
Gidwitz - 12%
Brady - 8%

You might want to save this in hopes of taunting me later.

27 comments:

Anonymous,  11:21 AM  

God Charlie...I hope you're right!

Bill Baar 11:32 AM  

I voted for George Ryan because I thought Glenn Poshard was a crazy social conservative. I convinced my wife to vote for Ryan too and she won't let me forget it.

I may not be the only person in Illiois who fumbled like that.

I think attitudes have changed on the social issues and I think there is a stand Republicans can take that would unite the so called social liberals and conservatives within the party on it.

I keep writing drafts in my head and will post soon.

Anonymous,  12:40 PM  

I'm giving myself a +/- 5% margin of error on these

Topinka 45%
Oberweis 25%
Brady 15%
Gidwitz 15%

fedup dem 4:22 PM  

I beg to differ wih Mr. Johnston regarding Ron Gidwitz. He has at least quietly supported various Democrats over the years, including Mayor Daley (who after all, had Gidwitz as President of the Chicago City College Board). If Judy Baar Topinka is guilty of anything, her crime may well be that of being somewhat more honest and open about having to deal with Democratic politicians in order to survive. Had she not done so in 2002, she would have lost the election to Tom Dart, and would no longer be a factor in Illinois politics.

Anonymous,  4:43 PM  

It is telling that Charlie didn't talk about Oberweis very much.

He also didn't explain how that Oberweis is going to get 44% of the vote.

Wishful thinking often works like that.

Charlie Johnston 5:19 PM  

Gosh, between this and the old Illinois Leader I have now been accused of being a shill for Brady, Rauschenberger, LaHood and Oberweis. There was a while there when I was being accused of being a Topinka acolyte as well. When I'm telling you what I want to happen, I'll tell you so explicitly. When I'm telling you what I think will happen, that is pure analysis. Feel free to write a competing analysis - but you'll need to do more than a simple non sequitur.

Charlie Johnston 5:31 PM  

Oh, and to Randall Sherman...you are right that Gidwitz has helped some Democrats, primarily in the City of Chicago. But, to the best of my knowledge those were only in races where no Republican was remotely competitive. If there is a race in which a Republican was competitive and Gidwitz weighed in on behalf of the Democrat, I am unaware of it. But if you know of any, please let me know.

My point was that Gidwitz has been quick to aggressively back candidates in the general election he did not support in the primary.

Anonymous,  7:52 PM  

Well, JBT has the backing of the White House, Gov. Jim Edgar, Congressman Lahood, and her running mate is DuPage County's State's Attorney Joe Birkett. In the 2002 elections it was JBT and Birkett with the most overall votes for any of the GOP candidates. Judy had a couple hundred thousand more votes then Blago. Oberweis has yet to prove anything..except he is always the runner-up in the primary. Gidwitz...have you seen his poll numbers?? JBT 44% Dairy boy 19% the rest are single digits.

Anonymous,  8:10 PM  

Why wait unti later to taunt you. NoBerweis????? You have got to be kidding. Please tell us that you will not be wearing that chicken suit with Joe W.

Charlie Johnston 9:16 PM  

Okay, here's the deal you armchair analysts, (and I'll go into it in more detail in another column), with the exception of Secretary of State, where you can build a patronage army, down-ballot statewide offices are NOT a good stepping-stone to the governor's office.

They give the illusion that the holder knows his or her politics backward and forward. Working from that illusion, such candidates enter a feature race ill-prepared. A feature race is a whole different ball game. The two most important factors in a down-ballot statewide race are how well the top of the ticket does and incumbency. This is why we don't have a Gov. Burris, Sen. Didrickson, Gov. Hartigan, Gov. (Jim) Ryan, etc., etc.

Let's look at the previous jobs of the last four decade's worth of governors in this state:

Blagojevich - U.S. Congress
Ryan - Secretary of State
Edgar - Secretary of State
Thompson - U.S. Atty.
Walker - Montgomery Ward Executive*
Ogilvie - Cook County Sheriff


* Walker came to prominence as head of the Chicago Study Team which investigated the riots at the 1968 Democratic Convention

In many races, down-ballot statewide candidates were considered the front-runners. Not a one of them won.

This is why I am so often contemptuous of conventional wisdom - it is merely assertive ignorance involving no study and precious little analysis. I may be wrong, but none of my critics has touched upon an informed, studied alternative scenario.

Anonymous,  11:39 PM  

I have a funny feeling that White House backing won't win Topinka very many votes...even among Republicans.

Anonymous,  6:17 AM  

I know many conservatives who will not vote if Topinka wins the primary. I also see "moderates" in the Republican Party "sneering" at the conservatives for not backing a "sure winner". Why would a democrat vote for Topinka when they could have the real thing? I can understand loyalty, but I cannot sell my soul if Topinka wins the primary. And, yes, she intends to punish any conservative if she gets in.

Andrea

Bill Baar 8:19 AM  

Ask Ald Mell why a democrat would vote for Topinkia.

Anonymous,  8:20 AM  

From the polls I've seen, Oberweis is on the gain and closing the gap between he and JBT. It's going to be a two way race, and once the TV advertising begins...Oberweis pulls ahead. JBT is just too much like a Democrat.

Anonymous,  8:22 AM  

Here's a link to a great article about why Topinka will lose and Oberweis will win: http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=11374
It's called Illinois GOP: Finding the Promised Land

Anonymous,  10:18 AM  

You have to be kidding?!


Have you forgotten that many (including Republicans) know that Oberweis has been beaten twice, despite spending millions, he's known throughout the state as that Taliban guy or the guy that ran the ridiculous soldier field anti-immigrant commercial, and he's flipped from one race to another on guns, abortion, and who knows what else?

His winning, as the Blagojevich people have already shown by trying to sneakily support him on blogs, would be the absolute worst outcome for Republicans.

I think Oberweis's appeal among Republicans is vastly overstated right now simply due to name ID from two previous debacles he called campaigns.

When issues get out there, it'll be a battle between him and Brady and Brady will either win, or Topinka will sneak through. I can't believe Gidwitz will take off until his numbers actually move some.

31% Brady
29% Topinka
25% Oberweis
15% Gidwitz

Anonymous,  11:28 AM  

Anonymous 10:18am,

May I have some of what you are smoking? Or is it the Kool-Aid you are drinking?

You said - "I can't believe Gidwitz will take off until his numbers actually move some"

Brady has no numbers - how the heck could you possibly think he ends up with 31%. Didn't the last public poll have Brady below Gidwitz?

I'm not sure who will win this thing but to discount one candidate whose numbers are low and to say that the next closet guy to him will win it all....I just don't get your thought process.

Again, pass over that Kool-Aid...doesn't seem like you need any more.

Extreme Wisdom 1:33 PM  

Great Post Charlie.

Your scintillating analysis is surpassed only by your self-depricating comment that we should save the post to taunt you with.

It will make you look that much better if & when you are proven right.

Levois 2:57 PM  

Topinka once visited a black bank Seaway to help promote a program through the State Treasurer's office. However after what happened when she was IL GOP chair, I'm not sure she's really fit to run the state especially if she's willing to alienate an important segment of her party.

Anonymous,  3:53 PM  

I am a former downstate GOP Chairman who has taken a break from the political scene for a couple years to recover from burn out. Over the past week or so I've asked many who i know are primary voting republicans from across the state who they like in the primary.

The overwhelming response has been who ever has the best chance of beating the incumbant in November.

When i've asked "But, who do you like?" the response may be telling.

By far the top choice has been Brady, followed by Topinka. What may have been more telling was the number of respondents who volunteered to say they would under no circumstances vote for Obie.

Charlie, the dynamic in this primary may be changing. Go out and do some recon and see if you concur.

Anonymous,  4:02 PM  

Interesting analysis by many on this post...interesting, but not necessarily promising for the party.

The reslity of the current Republican primary is that if things go as many here are predicting and Oberweis ends up getting the nod, the Blago Boys will likely be at the party to celebrate with Oberweis. Why? Simply stated, if Oberweis wins then the Blago machine will need all of about two weeks to destroy Oberweis in the campaign for the general.

While I do not consider myself an expert, I still believe that anyone could take a quick glance at Oberweis and realize why he is a terrible choice if the party truly wants to win in the general. Quick analysis of the Milkman: proven loser (two times or four depending on how you want to look at it, without a single victory to speak of), sorely lacking in legislative experience (great to make claims, but how did he vote? Oh, that's right, he hasn't voted for anything in any capacity), a flip-flopper (pro-life, pro-choice, pro-life...is he pulling petals from a flower when making policy decisions?), not to mention the Taliban and helicopter incidents. The Blago Boys must be chomping at the bit to get a crack at the Milkman. That being the case, the party must look elsewhere.

While I consider myself a moderate Republican, I cannot help but see Brady as the surprise candidate and the best hope for the party. Based on the issues, Brady is the candidate who can truly have a chance in a heads-up battle with Blago. He has the experience, credentials and policy positions which actually stand up to Blago.

Let's be realistic, JBT cannot bring out enough of her party base to win (which is why her numbers have actually been sliding), the Milkman will never be seen by John Q. Public as a legitimate candidate or a quality leader, and Gidwitz...lesser known version of JBT is all I can say.

For the good of the party, we need to find the candidate who has the right policy and credentials. In my opinion, Brady is that guy.

Anonymous,  5:50 PM  

Over the years I have met three of the four GOP candidates for Gov (JBT, Obie, Brady)in my downstate community. By far, Brady was the most impressive. Though I did not agree with him on some of his issues, I did sense some sincerity in trying to make Illinois a better place. I agree with Anon 3:53's assesment. I could also agree with Wonderboy's assessment if I saw any spark coming out of the Brady camp. Where are those guys? My sense is that the race is for Brady to take and Obie and JBT to lose, but where is he?

Anonymous,  8:14 PM  

Brady has been in this race LONGER than Oby why is he still in single digits? He has no money, he has no field org, he has no name recognition, what is he doing in this race? What has he been promised by Kejellander and the combine?
As for Blago wanting Oby. What other candidate has a crossover issue? JBT? what the Gay issue Blago signed the homo bill last summer and it went into effect on the 1st of the year. Gidwitz? school reform? Please. Brady? No body knows who he is. Oby? Illegal immigration? You got it? it is a 90% issue with the biggest supporters being African Americans (85%) women(80%) and people making under $75,000 a year (75%) It seems to me that Blago and his pollsters know this as well they will not want this issue brought up but it will be by the media thinking that it will kill Oby's campaign. Oby has one other issue that is a crossover that is guns. Guns won it for Fitz and it will help Oby take the southern part of the state.
I am not stupid enough to believe that Blacks will vote for Oby in big numbers but the more the issue hits the airwaves the more likely it is to lower the turnout in the black community. Blago pushing for Oby reminds me of the Brown people in Calf. pushing for Reagan thinking he will be the easy one to beat.

Anonymous,  7:40 AM  

Did you just compare the Milkman to Reagan? That just makes my head hurt...anon 8:14, do you work for The Milkman?

Just a couple of other issues with what you had to say...

In 2002 we witnessed The Milkman compare pro-lifers to the Taliban. In 2004, he was pro-life. What is he now and what will he be tomorrow?

In relation to your crossover issues that you claim Milkman has going for him, did you really say guns? In 2002, The Milkman wouldn't say anything about guns and now he is all for gun rights and CCW...sounds like a matter of pandering to the voters from a guy who hasn't had to actually sign or act on anything to date.

How are we as voters supposed to believe anything that Oberweis claims when he has shifted so many times in just the last 4 years?

I agree that Brady needs to do a better job of getting his name out there and I think he will be doing just that going forward. That being said, the guy with the crossover record on guns has to be Brady...look at his 2A history.

As for Oberweis having immigration as a crossover issue...may have crossover appeal, but voters don't prioritize immigration over the economy, taxes, or education. Your numbers are accurate, but they must be seen in terms of how important they actually are in the minds of voters. The crossover support which he MAY receive on his immigration policy won't matter because voters will already tune him out based upon their desire to find the candidate with the right policies for the important issues...and the top 3 are typically jobs, taxes and education. No reason to think that immigration will pass those issues in this election.

Just as an aside, did you seriously call it the "homo bill"? Now that is the kind of talk that will have crossover appeal...make sure you include that in your next speech that you help write for The Milkman.

Oberweis is like Reagan...I get it now, you were telling a joke...that's just funny...actually have tears in my eyes from laughing so much.

Anonymous,  12:24 AM  

Wow... The Brady and JBT staffers are out and about on the web, working for little pay... that's cute. It's clear that the Brady campaign faithful and JBT's lackeys are afraid. As Oberweis' poll numbers continue to skyrocket, I find it amusing that JBT and Brady (the "broke candidates") are trying to influence the inevitable, on the internet...Jim Oberweis will be our 2006 Republican candidate for governor. The speech he gave at last night's Cook County Republican Convention sealed the deal.

Anonymous,  10:28 AM  

Anon-12:24 - If his speech was so great at the Cook County Republican Convention, why did the straw poll results break down the way they did?

Governor
Judy Baar Topinka 128
Jim Oberweis 59
Bill Brady 42
Ron Gidwitz 26
Andy Martin 2

Obie-dopey brought the cronies in to make noise as he ragged on JBT but I think it cost him votes in Cook County.

Anonymous,  9:15 PM  

Well Anon 12:24...you caught me...it is true, I am working for little pay...it just is so hard to be called out in public like that.

What I should point out, however, is that I am not a staffer, but a veteran who is now back at college studying politics. As crazy as it may sound, I have decided that I will maintain my Republican views in the world of liberal academia. In my research, I have come to the realization that Brady is our best chance at knocking off Blago. Oddly, I formed that opinion based upon policy and the issues...probably a foreign concept to someone who would compare The Milkman to Reagan.

Just a few points that I would like for you to consider:
-Assuming that you are correct regarding the pay of Brady's staff, why would they take less money from someone and TURN DOWN more money from big spenders like The Milkman and Gidwitz. The rumor is out there that Brady's staff joined up after saying no to other campaigns.
-Was that an effort to tie JBT to Brady...do we have two candidates any more different from one another? Take an honest look and it is quite obvious that Oberweis has a little JBT to him, not Brady. The Milkman has publicly taken JBT type positions on abortion and guns only to run to the conservatives later...remember those failed attempts and the positions he took?
-SKYROCKETING? Come on now, his numbers have been consistent at almost every poll thus far--somewhere between 20 and 24% (where he claims to be right now as well). Not only in this campaign...every poll he has been in since his first run at U.S. Senate...in 2002. Call me crazy, but I don't define consistent numbers after 5 years as skyrocketing.
-Once the debates start and conservatives see the candidates up against one another...especially The Milkman against Brady...Brady will be seen as the true conservative AND best chance to win the general. Brady has already gotten the conservative endorsements including i-carry.org and more will come over the following weeks. The reality is that Brady is going to be the one to save the party from another Alan Keyes disaster-Jim Oberweis.
-Not exactly the report I got on the speeches from the Cook County Rep. Convention, but that is another discussion. Just curious...did The Milkman talk about the "Homo Bill" as you so eloquently put it?

Can we please avoid Alan Keyes 2 and see The Milkman as the terrible candidate that he is?

By the way, do you have any contact info so that I can collect the "little pay" that I am supposedly entitled to. It may be cute, but a college student can use a few bucks here and there.

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