The writing on the walls.
Official MOSU Chemist's brother in law has a neat piece up that I think goes along nicely with my stem cell post in the sense that it gives perhaps a nice perspective on the bigger picture. It's not intended as a political piece, rather a an academic spot about lack of knowledge and procrastination.
If you're scratching your head wondering just what in the hell I'm talking about, I'll explain it to you:
Wingers, who've avoided expanding their world view for a very long time, are ignoring the writing on the walls and putting off the obvious - which is to abandon dead end flag waver issues and come up with a new way of thinking.
Writing on the walls? The most obvious example would be the '06 trouncing that we received - although, I can see how the more strident of my conservative pals can ignore it. It was a national trend. They can marginalize us getting spanked by simply putting it all in the perspective of a national kick in the teeth. I know how hard it is get folks to self-reflect on things that they don't want to - and I know most definitely if you bring up to conservatives about how we got obliterated, their first response will definitely to talk about the larger scale.
I think it's more than fair to judge a political party's health, it's by taking a good look at the party's infotainment apparatus. To put it in a national perspective, the GOP has the advantages of Limbaugh, Hannity, and Levin. Whether intended or not (and I tend to be on the not side, btw) these people serve as ministers of information for the GOP. They provide clearing houses for information and perspective in an entertaining way which keeps GOP voters engaged and informed so that when election time comes around, we can count on the base to be up to date and motivated.
The methodology is so effective that we've seen numerous attempts by the left side of the aisle to copy it and create their own version of it, most notably with the bastardized launching of Air America which is still in the midst of failing, last time I checked.
Now, that being said, Chicago is a radio hub. Arguably it's one of the larger talk radio markets in the country and stations like WLS are continuously able to earn top ratings with benign water cooler talk shows like Don Wade and Roma and the snark humor of guys like Roe Conn. In the middle and at the end of their line up, you have hard conservative talk from Limbaugh and Hannity. WLS is also one of the larger talk radio stations in the country.
It would stand to reason that on a station that clearly has no beef with putting Conservative infotainers on the air and has listeners that are right leaning already that we would have prominent local conservative voices on the air next to them, complete with prime or semi-prime time slots.
Well? Do we? We did. A year ago we had Terri O'brien and Eileen Byrne. Byrne was good hearted I think - she just wasn't very good at talk radio. O'Brien was toxic to the point of being obnoxious. Both have since been canned or otherwise sent packing. O'Brien still maintains a screech fest blog which you can view at any time you're interested in seeing that she's less convincing in text than she is on the air.
So what happened? Why would WLS let'em drop? Idea one: that Terri O'Brien was too hot to handle for the Disney owned radio station. Her rants could easily cross the line from the 'classy' (and I use that term loosely) Limbaughesque to the classless kind of crap you'd otherwise only hear from Air America's most unlistenable and obnoxious host, Randi Rhodes.
Of course that doesn't quite fit the bill either. Limbaugh has assuredly generated some nasty incidents over the years, but he commands millions of listeners and whatever controversy could be easily over looked by the benefit of having a guy with a dedicated audience. Eureka! That's it.
Wait. Dan are you telling us O'Brien probably got the boot because nobody was listening? Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Had O'Brien (whom is the epitome of Illinois right wing) and her hard right brand of Illinois political talk had an audience, she'd still be there today - but she didn't. There's no agenda in radio other than selling advertising and drumming up listeners to hear the advertising. O'Brien and Byrne couldn't hack it.....because nobody is listening. In fact, if you sift through the WLS line up, you won't find any other local conservative talk, save for *I think* Tom Roeser who runs a late evening one hour show....on Sunday.
Now I'm sure, that O'Brien or Byrne will at some point turn up at some point with the rest of the B-String infotainers over at the doomed to fail 560 WIND that will come with all sorts of cheers from the wingers, but will ultimately be short lived. Write it in stone. Save the rock.
Use it as a metaphor, Oh-hard-right. Nobody wants to listen to you. Average conservatives are disengaged from your ideas. The sooner you get it, the sooner we can move on and win an election or two.
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Too true, my man! However, look at how long it took before Jerry Springer grew blue mold.
Balance and integrity is not 'edgey' for the mopes who run Left/right media circii - When Mancow can play with Carol Marin on WTTW you have pretyy good barometer for the plunge in taste and sense.
That's just it. We have a ton of potential for media play in Illinois. Between 'the google' and the radio. We could engage the entire conservative community. But instead our major outlets are wingnut kookery. Just look at the GOP web presence...it's a joke. IHRO and 102 ideas are a place to start, but are just barely credible.
We need something edgy. We need actual crossroad outlets that appeal to all conservatives, not just the cave dwellers.
'll'Dan,
Me an' my yellahammer twin girlfrens' like goodtalk about ishews - speshly when putaynin to marality.
House'sa rocking could be Guster! r the Satlight dish agin!
Belallen! Check them catfish snags! Stupid Dawg.
I enjoy the Michael Savage show on WIND, I also enjoy the morning show with Cisco and Big John. I think WLS-AM is a joke but they still get the rating points withs chumps like Rush and Hannity, Tom Roeser is the best as far as local politics (since Bruce DuMont decided to focus on his national radio show.) Public Access Tv in the city have some good local programs too but I really like internet radio stations and Pandora that Rich Miller turned me on to about 6 months ago.
WIND is dead. It's cute that they don't know it yet.
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Jerry Agar is at least as Right Wing as Terri O'Brien, but not as informed on the local issues, nor as pleasant as Terri was in interviews.
His show seems to be doing fine, and is being picked up for nationwide syndication, I hear...yes right here in Chicago, a Right Wing hardliner is gaining a national audience, which is 180 degrees from what dan is suggesting.
JBP
LOL. He's an immigrant from Canada. He runs a nat. syndicated show. His background is from a station in the urban metropleas of Raleigh, North Carolina.
So what does he bring to the local scene?
dan,
"So what does he bring to the local scene? "
Just proof that you are diametrically incorrect about the state of Right Wing commentators on WLS.
JBP
I liked Al Franken when i got a chance to listen to him but most of the Air America crowd were pests.
I thought Eileen Byrne was good but probably not edgey enough for the suits.
The pill-popper is like listening to twelve drunken Dartmouth sophomores who finally had Locke and Bentham explained to them.
Roland S. Martin play great music.
NPR makes me nod off and hit light poles. 'Next on Fresh Air - Rwandan Funny man and Katrina Shop Vac entrepenauer expains Chanakah at Abu Graib to Studs Terkle and the Limelighters. . . . ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ'CRASH!
Just proof that you are diametrically incorrect about the state of Right Wing commentators on WLS.
Wrong about what? We don't have a single local voice on WLS. We had 2, but they both sucked.
BTW
NPR makes me nod off and hit light poles. 'Next on Fresh Air - Rwandan Funny man and Katrina Shop Vac entrepenauer expains Chanakah at Abu Graib to Studs Terkle and the Limelighters. . . .
Greatest. Comment. Ever
dan,
"Oh-hard-right. Nobody wants to listen to you." except for the WLS morning show from 10-12AM, already one of the largest shows in the country, and now going into nationwide syndication.
I am not claiming that the Agar show is the ideal representative of the Illinois Republicans, but it has a following, and is being backed by WLS, which is completely contrary to your claims.
Also, Bruno Behrends is on a small station in Waukegan, and is a very informed and intelligent guy. He carries on a pleasant discourse with the audience and presents the conservative/small government viewpoint in an informative manner, without shouting at his audience.
How about cheering for the some of the good guys (Left or Right) rather than dismissing the local talent?
JBP
except for the WLS morning show from 10-12AM, already one of the largest shows in the country, and now going into nationwide syndication.
I think you're either missing my point. Jerry Agar does not represent an Illinois conservative message. He represents a national conservative message. The two differ. You try to play the national red ideas in a state that's dead set blue, don't be shocked when it doesn't reflect in the polls.
There is no local engine for the message. There is no message either, but that's a topic for another post.
Want me to chat up local radio? Gladly. Roe Conn is a great drive home, Roma is charming. Want me to say good for Jerry Agar for being quasi -home grown talent? Gladly.
Dan,
Just curious as to what makes you the expert? Though I agree with a few of your observations, the fact is that WIND is probably here to stay, and Agar probably is as well.
The WIND local morning show has increased ratings, and Salem has enough national support to keep their main hosts here as long as they want.
As for the relative quality of these shows, the real problem is too few (and too expensive) over-the-air outlets, combined with a class of program directors that refuse to take risks on "new" talent, and therefore hunt for a way to squeeze in a "known" name.
Have you done any radio, or are you just a fan? I'm not asking as a dig, but interested in your background? There is no downside to expressing ones views.
Also, what, in your opinion, should the message be?
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John,
Thanks for the nice words. For those who have never heard my show, they can stream it 10A - 12 Noon on www.wkrs.com (follow the 'listen live' links)
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