Monday, August 07, 2006

Revealed: RNC Vision of Female 6th District Voters

Sometimes a political ad inadvertently reveals more than was intended.



For example, this mailing from the National Republican Congressional Committee indicates that they either believe that the ladies of the 6th District are crazed, screaming harpies or that they don't mind being portrayed as such.

I would understand if this photo of a shreaking fury was mailed exclusively to the Illinois Family Institute crowd -- they do strike me as a shrill, bun-haired bunch -- but this mailer was addressed to 'The Bride of So-Called "Austin Mayor"'.

Something tells me that this bizare mailing from the NRCC is not going to make up for Creepy Pete's crumbing field organization.

Cross-posted at The So-Called "Austin Mayor" blog.

36 comments:

Bill Baar 10:17 AM  

What image would have been more appropriate?

Flattering instead of offensive to the citzens of Dupage.

Surf the net for us and suggest some because I'm a poor visualizer when it comes to examples of lookism...

I'm way too partial to homely folks like myself.

Anonymous,  10:37 AM  

Talk about much ado about nothing.

Skeeter 10:43 AM  

It really does show their views, doesn't it?

Of course, given Roskam's radical views on abortion and stem cells, it is not exactly a shocker that he views women as angry.

Maybe the real reason that women was screaming was that she was just served with a summons by plaintiff's personal injury lawyer Roskam, for a case in which the plaintiff wasn't hurt but wants to recover big bucks. That sort of thing makes a lot of people angry.

Bill Baar 10:49 AM  

Talk about much ado about nothing.

I want to hear Maj. Duckworth on Don't Ask, Don't Tell

Last time I called her office they had no position.

I'm sick and tired of being called a bigot for asking if same sex marriage would put Catholic Charities out of the adoption business in Illinois as it did in Mass.

So let Duckworth supporters take some heat on questions that are of consequence.

Skeeter 12:15 PM  

Bill,

At a time when our military is missing enlistment quotas, do you believe that gays in the military is an issue of immediate national importance?

Sometimes the question provides more information than the answer.

Bill Baar 12:19 PM  

yes

I'm for dropping don't ask don't tell.

I'd have DoD pay PCS for a partner's move.

Does Duckworth or supporters agree?

Give us some links on quotas missed.

Anonymous,  1:53 PM  

First, she's not screaming - it's a mailer, not a TV ad.

Since the image is meant to convey a sense of jaw dropping shock and perhaps even outrage, it makes perfect sense that her expression is exaggerated. Her jaw is dropped (duh) and if she was simply scowling I'm sure people would try to come up with some other criticism of the look on her face.

Second, as far as being offensive to women, you're clueless and reaching. They used a picture of a woman reading a mocked-up newspaper in order to appeal to women. There's nothing offensive about the image other than the weak grasping at straws assertion that it might be.

Anonymous,  3:06 PM  

anybody know when politicians became "radical" and "extreme"? skeeter? boy i hate how political discourse and debate has turned into a mountain dew commercial...

Skeeter 3:40 PM  

Perhaps Plaintiff's personal injury attorney Roskam can explain to you his views on abortion and stem cells [if he can fit it in between handling dog bite cases], and then you can judge whether they are "radical" or "extreme."

For some reason, though, I don't see him talking about those issues much anymore. There may be a reason.

Bill Baar 4:20 PM  

Don't forget same sex marriage in your list of things for Roskam to talk about Skeeter....

...get down too it, Roskam is pretty known fare.. there are no surprizes on his positions.

Sadly, I don't think Duckworth can claim the same clarity on her views.

She's got too many in her own party who would wreck her if she gets too definitive on anything.

Skeeter 4:44 PM  

Roskam sure does seem to run from those positions though, doesn't he?

He actually claimed that Americans don't believe that the stem cell debate is an important issue.

Which of course just shows how completely out of touch he is. Of course, it might be that he is trying to cover up his extreme positions.

Skeeter 5:14 PM  

Bill,

Why are you Republicans so fascinated with homosexuals?

You hear far more about them from Republicans who want to deny them rights or bar them from things than from actual homosexuals.

Is is just that you have no other issues? Is is that Republicans want to be in everybody's bedroom deciding what should or should not be done? Or is a fear of what you might become?

Tell us why you thought the two important issues for Major Duckworth involved homosexuals. In the alternative, maybe you can tell your therapist why you spend so much time thinking about them.

Bill Baar 6:02 PM  

You don't think it's important Skeeter...its trivial issue?

Liberals have driven ROTC off campus over it.

Would you not vote for Duckworth if she couldn't commit to dropping don't ask, don't tell.

If it's important enought to drive off the ROTC, seems important enough to take stand.

I did Skeeter. Where are you?

Anonymous,  6:10 PM  

Skeeter,
Oh please! We (the gay community) know what our choices really are: Republicans are against gay right (generally speaking) and Democrats think we are too stupid to realize they actually have no position.
For example:
Republicans are against gay marriage.
Democrats aren't for gay marriage, they are just against being against it.
Republicans are against gay adoption.
Democrats aren't for gay adoption, they are just against being against it.
Republicans are against gays in the military.
Democrats aren't for gays in the military, they are just against being against it.
One side takes a firm position in opposition and the other is a mis-mash of double-negatives.
The bad news for us is that we are left with a similar double-negative choice: not which party is best for us (both are terrible), just which is not the worst.

Bill Baar 6:56 PM  

Nice pink,

It's a choice between straight talk (staight in the conventional sense),

...and double talk.

I'd rather disagree with people who just say I'm wrong, and not a bigot,

...then people who can't figure out where they stand, but see fit to call me a bigot for simply suggesting there is a side which should be considered....

subtle and complex, but easy to figure out because the person calling you a bigot -yet unable to take a principled stand- is usually the demogogue.

Beware of them. Even when they pretend to be on your side.

Skeeter 8:50 AM  

Loud mouths on campus now are the voice of the Democratic Party?

Bill, should we start claiming that Rev. Phelps is the voice of the Republican Party?

Face it: In this election most people just don't care. Homosexuals, like all Americans, should vote for Democrats because Democrats are right on national security, on the economy, on building better schools. If they want to ignore those issues and vote strictly on whether a party will support their marriage or allow them access to the military then they are free to do so, at risk of voting for candidates who will weaken our security and destroy our economy.

Those guys driving pick up trucks in Coal City need health insurance and some protection for their retirements, and so do the guys walking down Halsted Street. If either one of them is going to vote for a party based on gay marriage and not on health insurance, then they will get the government they deserve.

Bill Baar 9:59 AM  

You, Austin, (and Duckworth) still dodging Skeeter.

A person who supports the preserve marriage ref is a bigot.

Is a person opposed to repealing don't ask, don't tell also a bigot?

Lets see were you stand on bigotry if that's what you think it is...

...I called Duckworth's office a few months ago and they said she had no comment.

So take a stand, or can the bigotry mumbo jumbo.

Skeeter 10:59 AM  

No, not dodging.
Just don't think it is an issue, and think that those who do are either right wing political oppportunists or so focused on personal matters that they deserve the government they would get.

Are you homosexual who feels that his rights have been denied, John? (Not that there is anything wrong with that). In the alternativeDo you hate them and want them denied all civil liberties? If neither applies to you, then why do should you care.

Oh, I know. Because you are a Republican who has no other issues. Now it makes sense.

Bill Baar 11:35 AM  

Not that there is anything wrong with that

Really generous of you Skeeter.

You sound like Kerry repeating over and over again about Lesbianism.

What ever happened to Librealism...

we've got Austin's lookism post, and Skeeters homosexual inquistion.

Can't you guys discuss policy on its merits?

Can't your candidate? Who should be in the know on this issue based on her servic.

Skeeter 12:20 PM  

I note that you didn't answer the question.

Sometimes people mean what they say.

I said and meant that I could not care less who you sleep with, but I am wondering why you spend so much time wondering what Maj. Duckworth thinks of the issue.

Enlighten us. Tell us why it matters more than economic issues, security issues, etc.

Bill Baar 1:02 PM  

...what Maj. Duckworth thinks of the issue.

She's a decorated combat officer. She should know better then most on this blog.

Activists are driving ROTC of campuses in War time over don't ask, don't tell.

Gay Marriage the only issue in Illinois where people are called bigots.

If war or bigotry are important, then don't ask, don't tell is an issue.

Duckworth opposed to same sex marriage last I checked. She favors civil unions instead.

So, is she opposed to repealing don't ask, don't tell?

Or if she's ok not acknowleging Gays currently in service during War time, how come she avoids the bigot label you and Austin freely toss at others; or your speculation on the sexuality of people you disagree with... that they're self loathing closeted gays as others have put it?

Skeeter 1:26 PM  

Let me get this right:

You want to know Maj. Duckworth's position because one person called another person a bigot?

Maj. Duckworth didn't call anybody a bigot, did she?

If you don't like being called a bigot, call your therapist or develop thicker skin. Don't ask the government to step in and make people stop calling you a bigot.

Driving ROTC off campuses? How many schools? Is that an issue for the federal government, or should the schools decide who is on campus? Do you want the federal government telling De Paul who can and cannot recruit on campus?

Incidently, I never speculated about who you sleep with. As I made clear, I couldn't possibly care less. I just want to know why you care so much about an issue that doesn't matter to nearly anyone else.

You still haven't told us why you care. You just said some people are mean. When Congress can outlaw mean words, I don't want to live here anymore.

Why don't you just admit the obvious? You want an answer because it is a cheap issue that plays well to motivate the right wing dingbats and gets them to vote, but ultimately, the issue doesn't matter in the slighest to Americans.

You Republicans are supposed to be moral. You claim to be honest. It is absolutely clear that the issue is just cheap politics for you, so as a fine moral and honest Republican, you should come clean. Tell the truth on this one. Admit you are trying to rally the dingbats. If you are as fine and moral as you claim, the admission will make you feel better.

Bill Baar 1:52 PM  

I never speculated about who you sleep with.

Not me Skeeter, but you speculated here...

Are you homosexual who feels that his rights have been denied, John? (Not that there is anything wrong with that).

Don't ask, don't tell an issue Skeeter. Like it or not.

Spend less time wondering if people are homosexuals or not, and think more on public policy, you'd be more in tune.

Anonymous,  2:07 PM  

Well, the only thing I'd bring up skeeter is that homosexuals are the ones wearing their sexuality on their sleeves, they're the ones talking about it all the time.

But your responses to Bill are really dead on, he can't back up any point he makes, it's quite something.

Skeeter 2:42 PM  

Sure I asked Bill. I was trying to find out why the issue was of so much concern to you. I also suggested in the alternative that you might be one of those Phelps type Republicans. I figure it had to be one or the other.

Which is it Bill? Why do you care so much?

Bill Baar 3:14 PM  

I hammer away at it because you and Austin won't take a stand.

Bill Baar 3:17 PM  

and because it elicits bizarro stuff like this...

homosexuals are the ones wearing their sexuality on their sleeves

I'll deliver Roskam the gay vote in Dupage if you folks keep it up and this post gets a little wider coverage...

anon sure never met any gay service members to make a comment like that....

Skeeter 3:32 PM  

You got me on that one. I won't take a stand on the issue.

I also will not take a stand on whether Macedonia is actually Greek or whether the U.S. should step in to make sure that Quebec remains a part of Canada.

Unfortunately, there are many issues that some see as pressing that I will not take a stand on, because ultimately, given the state of this nation, they just don't rank up with the major issues.

What is your view of the Macedonia question by the way? Why do Republicans keep evading that issue?

Keep it up and I will make sure that every Greek in C6 turns out for Duckworth.

Bill Baar 3:59 PM  

I favored independence for Quebec back in the late 60s when it was a radical think to do. They seem to have it sorted out today and if it works for Canada and the Quebecois, it works for me.

I've been to Macedonia. I've been to Bosnia. Not so long after Tito died because I was very interested his brand of Communism at the time.

I support an independent Macedonia. I'm glad NATO helped them achieve that, and I'm glad they're our allies today. I would hope both Duckworth and Roskam would agree on that.

The dissolution of Yugoslavia and Europe's indifference to the slaughter of the Bosniaks was a turning points for me.

Bosnia and genocide in Rwanda changed my politics long before 911.

I'd gladly talk about these topics rather than speculate on anyones sexuality, or the looks of the woman in Roskam's ads.

That today's Liberals, as evidenced by your posts here, seem obsessed with this stuff, just shows me of how debased the Liberal tradition's become.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but you and Austin seem far to typical for me Skeeter...

Skeeter 4:34 PM  

Please tell us why you think we are obsessing. You raised the issue. We said that it didn't matter. Seems like you are the one with it on your mind.

You keep talking but I don't hear any answers. Why do you care so much about homosexuals? Why is that an issue for you? Why do you talk more about that than about pensions, particularly since this week Northwest Airlines filed pleadings to destroy its own employees' pensions? Isn't that a much bigger issue than homosexuals?

And if you believe that Macedonia is "independent" then you must be some sort of commie freak. Macedonia is in fact a part of Greece and always has been. Of course, you probably want to give away the Louisiana Purchase. The reason: You right wingers are not true American Patriots. We all know it. Why do you hate freedom?

Any Greek who votes for your pal Roskam gets what he deserves.

Bill Baar 7:11 PM  

Why do you talk more about that than about pensions....

No ones every called me a bigot about pensions... or asked if I was a homosexual in regard them...

I just commented on DJW's post about pensions and Sudan divestment too by the way. Neither issue came up.

Skeeter 7:34 PM  

So,this is all about somebody calling you a bigot?

There, there. It will be O.K., Bill. Those meanies won't get away with that!

Seriously -- grow up. People make mean comments.

Mean comments are not matters of national importance, and you have yet to show why anyone [other than you and your odd fascination] should really care.

Bill Baar 5:58 AM  

mean spiritedness loses elections.

Watch the netrooters take down the Democrats with it.

Skeeter 9:01 AM  

Good point Bill.
Republicans are kind and gentle.

Just like the kind and gentle right wing extremist who took down Joe Schwartz in Michigan.

Face it, Bill. The far right wing has taken over your party and will do permanent harm both in 2006 and 2008. By 2010, the GOP will be a footnote.

Anonymous,  2:32 PM  

skeeter, have you always been a bitter asshole or did you grow into that?

Skeeter 2:53 PM  

Anonymous said...
skeeter, have you always been a bitter asshole or did you grow into that?

2:32 PM

These are you polite and kind pals in the GOP, Bill.

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