tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post116300615485579906..comments2023-11-30T04:19:29.368-06:00Comments on ILLINOIZE: So, Why Did David McSweeney Lose?Rich Millerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05405714376169753223noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1163119636905383552006-11-09T18:47:00.000-06:002006-11-09T18:47:00.000-06:00It was not a candidate race, of course.It was not a candidate race, of course.Cal Skinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04337955959473420714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1163092949769002482006-11-09T11:22:00.000-06:002006-11-09T11:22:00.000-06:00Someone beat me to it, but it should be pointed ou...Someone beat me to it, but it should be pointed out that the ultrasound crap didn't work in South Dakota, where the first abortion ban put to voters was defeated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1163079979341272462006-11-09T07:46:00.000-06:002006-11-09T07:46:00.000-06:00Skeeter's observation that McSweeney's messge is "...Skeeter's observation that McSweeney's messge is "Bean is a liberal" is spot on.<BR/><BR/>This message doesn't work for either side when running against a moderate. The best example is Mark Kirk. Gash's only message against Kirk in 2000 was "he's an extreme conservative." Well, he isn't -- and that's why the message failed.<BR/><BR/>Another, and more curious example, is Peter Fitzgerald. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1163048220262553272006-11-08T22:57:00.000-06:002006-11-08T22:57:00.000-06:00And maybe a third reason:3. He was a Republican.And maybe a third reason:<BR/><BR/>3. <B>He was a Republican.</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1163041320772252112006-11-08T21:02:00.000-06:002006-11-08T21:02:00.000-06:00Can't pin that one on me. I voted and argued agai...Can't pin that one on me. I voted and argued against it.Cal Skinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04337955959473420714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1163015041886364452006-11-08T13:44:00.000-06:002006-11-08T13:44:00.000-06:00Thanks, Cal.A final note from me on the issue:The ...Thanks, Cal.<BR/><BR/>A final note from me on the issue:<BR/><BR/>The other problem dates back to Ryan. Not the corruption. The problem was "Build Illinois." Between that and the federal budget, the GOP has lost all credibility on the budget issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1163014785595468342006-11-08T13:39:00.000-06:002006-11-08T13:39:00.000-06:00You won't get an argument me on that observation.You won't get an argument me on that observation.Cal Skinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04337955959473420714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1163014013767070082006-11-08T13:26:00.000-06:002006-11-08T13:26:00.000-06:00Cal,Maybe the women were better candidates.In all ...Cal,<BR/><BR/>Maybe the women were better candidates.<BR/><BR/>In all seriousness, even assuming that the district would align with McS better than Bean on abortion (and I don't believe that), I still don't think it would have made any difference.<BR/><BR/>The real problem with that race was that McS didn't do anything other than to call Bean a liberal. If you hear something over and over, you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1163013520015855732006-11-08T13:18:00.000-06:002006-11-08T13:18:00.000-06:00Of course, one of my points is that abortion did h...Of course, one of my points is that abortion did hurt McSweeney. He got beat up night after night and refused to tell where Bean stood on abortion.<BR/><BR/>If you don't like my suggested text, come up with another one. <BR/><BR/>My observations about women running well against men in the Northwest suburbs, that is, having a gender advantage, does have something to do with it. <BR/><BR/>You Cal Skinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04337955959473420714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1163011761268148472006-11-08T12:49:00.000-06:002006-11-08T12:49:00.000-06:00Your post was typical of the current state of the ...Your post was typical of the current state of the ILGOP.<BR/><BR/>Gender had nothing to do with it.<BR/><BR/>Abortion would have hurt McS.<BR/><BR/>The real problem is that when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.<BR/><BR/>The GOP did nothing here but brand Cong. Bean a liberal. That is completely ridiculous. She's not and everyone in the district knew it.<BR/><BR/>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1163008163550573422006-11-08T11:49:00.000-06:002006-11-08T11:49:00.000-06:00It didn't play in South Dakota either.I wonder if ...It didn't play in <A HREF="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061108/D8L8MS282.html" REL="nofollow">South Dakota either.</A><BR/><BR/>I wonder if Scheuer didn't help her by letting her write off the handful of Ned Lamont voters out there and move to the right.<BR/><BR/>She wasn't going to get them so why bother. A luxury Duckworth didn't have.Bill Baarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095486926836836714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1163007720487737602006-11-08T11:42:00.000-06:002006-11-08T11:42:00.000-06:00I think there's a big risk to going "on the attack...I think there's a big risk to going "on the attack" on abortion in a suburban district like the 8th. That might play in South Dakota, but I would think McSweeney would have stood to lose more voters than he gained with that line of campaigning.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11595113265845094240noreply@blogger.com