tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post113822783202901667..comments2023-11-30T04:19:29.368-06:00Comments on ILLINOIZE: The upside of female feticideRich Millerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05405714376169753223noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138372655837257532006-01-27T08:37:00.000-06:002006-01-27T08:37:00.000-06:00Ms. Stanek:Are you claiming the answer to the equa...Ms. Stanek:<BR/>Are you claiming the answer to the equal work for equal pay is more people? If not, then I'm not clear on your post.<BR/><BR/>Also, I note that your post did not acknowledge that before the people from NOW stepped forward, people like you would never be allowed to speak up.<BR/><BR/>You really might want to show some gratitude.Skeeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03271109506393354557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138327887068187982006-01-26T20:11:00.000-06:002006-01-26T20:11:00.000-06:00anon 5:06 The problem with your comment on big go...anon 5:06 The problem with your comment on big gov and over regulation of people, is who do you include under that label of <EM>people</EM>?<BR/><BR/>We fought a civil war in America, in large to resolve the question of just who were full people. <BR/><BR/>Jill includes the unborn as people. <BR/><BR/>So let's be honest about what Jill believes here. <BR/><BR/>She thinks abortion is murder.Bill Baarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095486926836836714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138326814134541882006-01-26T19:53:00.000-06:002006-01-26T19:53:00.000-06:00Larry Horse- if a fetus is a person, why would you...Larry Horse- if a fetus is a person, why would you be willing to kill it just because its father was a rapist? <BR/>In parts of India, the Indian Government is paying people to have girls.Jonahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07961973384914389626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138316788033501832006-01-26T17:06:00.000-06:002006-01-26T17:06:00.000-06:00At least you bothered to do some actual research h...At least you bothered to do some actual research here, that's my point. It's too easy to take one letter in one publication and claim it as your own moral high ground. Oster's research has not been peer reviewed (as far as I can tell from the relevant journals); however, Chahnazarian's has and remember it's the one letter calling HIS research into question that you've been using to make your Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138314787544983812006-01-26T16:33:00.000-06:002006-01-26T16:33:00.000-06:00From Fertile Ground by Charles Mahtesian, Democrat...From <EM>Fertile Ground</EM> by <A HREF="http://www.govexec.com/features/1205-01/1205-01adpw.htm" REL="nofollow">Charles Mahtesian</A>,<BR/> <BR/><BR/><BR/><EM>Democratic strength is concentrated in states with low fertility and low marriage rates, which wouldn't be a problem if these places were attracting large numbers of new residents. But most are not, at least when compared with the Bill Baarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095486926836836714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138314288190934072006-01-26T16:24:00.000-06:002006-01-26T16:24:00.000-06:00I don't think any of this research correlating HBV...I don't think any of this research correlating HBV and birth ratios was peer reviewed in any medical or economics journals.<BR/><BR/>Oster is an Econ Grad student at Harvard and is the only person I can see who's suggested there is a link between HBV infections and birth ratios.<BR/><BR/>My guess is Medical Researchers don't take Oster as doing credible medical research.<BR/><BR/>As an old Bill Baarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095486926836836714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138310973496253682006-01-26T15:29:00.000-06:002006-01-26T15:29:00.000-06:00One opinion that Chahnazarian's studies were flawe...One opinion that Chahnazarian's studies were flawed does not a refutation make. I know you can't produce another one, because another published one doesn't exist. What do you know of O'Boyle other than the letter you found in a Google search today? What other of Chahnazarian's research have you read? Who peer reviewed the original research?<BR/><BR/>You make assumptions based on one letter toAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138310644099832242006-01-26T15:24:00.000-06:002006-01-26T15:24:00.000-06:00Yeah, but they were the only ones with numbers, wi...Yeah, but they were the only ones with numbers, with data... that's what a meta study is... collect old studies an run the numbers. <BR/><BR/>In this case the numbers flawed because we don't know if the mother was HBV postive before giving birth. All four were retrospective tests.<BR/><BR/>A paper by an Econ Grad student does not reality make.Bill Baarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095486926836836714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138309661800386292006-01-26T15:07:00.000-06:002006-01-26T15:07:00.000-06:00Read again Bill, Chahnazarian's studies are only o...Read again Bill, Chahnazarian's studies are only one of the sources cited in the 5 pages of citations in Oster's paper. O'Boyle was responding to Barro's short interpretation of the paper rather than the paper itself. Just as you're defending a letter to the editor as the last word on the issue rather than addressing the methodology of the paper as a whole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138309095196680202006-01-26T14:58:00.000-06:002006-01-26T14:58:00.000-06:00Read again anon 2:20. O'Boyle questions all four:...Read again anon 2:20. O'Boyle questions all four: <EM>Most telling, all four of the studies in which the HBV testing was done at the time of the interviews are retrospective: No one knows whether the carrier parents were infected when the mother was pregnant and gave birth. For that reason, none of these studies establishes a clear linkage between HBV infection and sex ratios, and Oster's Bill Baarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095486926836836714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138306807780783692006-01-26T14:20:00.000-06:002006-01-26T14:20:00.000-06:00If your definition of "questionable data" is so br...If your definition of "questionable data" is so broad that a letter to the editor of Business Week that questions one cited source in a 60 page paper that lists over five pages of citations, then yes it is questionable data.<BR/><BR/>Not like that dead solid material in WorldNetDaily.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138302725190478082006-01-26T13:12:00.000-06:002006-01-26T13:12:00.000-06:00At Twain said, there are lies, damn lies, and then...At Twain said, there are lies, damn lies, and then statistics. I think the Oster essay (not peer reviewed research either) if not a lie, is based on some questionalbe data. <BR/><BR/>Here's what a peer <A HREF="http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_12/c3925128_mz030.htm" REL="nofollow">said about it,</A><BR/><BR/><BR/>Robert Barro's enthusiasm for the findings of Harvard University Bill Baarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095486926836836714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138300866602747852006-01-26T12:41:00.000-06:002006-01-26T12:41:00.000-06:00Skeeter/Horse:You both have hit it on the head. I...Skeeter/Horse:<BR/><BR/>You both have hit it on the head. If you're pro-life it is incumbent upon you to take back this issue from the shrill, "lie, cheat and steal if needed" element that has hijacked the debate. I'm not saying that everyone of my point of view is going to come over to your side as a result, but at least we could finally reach a point where the the issue can be dealt with Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138297219796740582006-01-26T11:40:00.000-06:002006-01-26T11:40:00.000-06:00Larry Horse,What a great comment. I completely ag...Larry Horse,<BR/><BR/>What a great comment. I completely agree. The problem with the allegedly pro-life people is the conduct of the allegedly pro-life people. It is a great issue if we could take it out of the hands of the Jill Stanek's of the world. Every time they tell a lie they hurt the cause.Skeeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03271109506393354557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138296925243774662006-01-26T11:35:00.000-06:002006-01-26T11:35:00.000-06:00Jill Stanek said... "Skeeter (at the risk of provo...Jill Stanek said... <BR/>"Skeeter (at the risk of provoking Proverbs 29:9), restudy Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, if you even know what it is.<BR/><BR/>A prerequisite for broaching the glass ceiling is being born to have the chance to knock on it."<BR/><BR/>First, I thank you for the condescending tone of your comment. It is a great reminder of who am I dealing with.<BR/><BR/>Second, I'm not Skeeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03271109506393354557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138292901845207652006-01-26T10:28:00.000-06:002006-01-26T10:28:00.000-06:00Amazing how the UN is suddenly such a wonderful al...Amazing how the UN is suddenly such a wonderful ally. How about a big pat on the back to the UN for all the very important work they've done, and continue to do, to protect the reproductive rights of women around the world? Keeping the facists out of the bedrooms and bodies of women, now there's a reason to love the UN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138292364998925902006-01-26T10:19:00.000-06:002006-01-26T10:19:00.000-06:00I love the irony of a woman who got where she was ...I love the irony of a woman who got where she was only because of groups like NOW turning her back on them.<BR/><BR/>Do you think you would have any chance to compete in the U.S. without NOW?<BR/><BR/>What was the status of women in this country before groups like NOW?<BR/><BR/>You might want to at least say thank you.<BR/><BR/>Incidently, the "foremost tool" is not "female feticide" but "equal Skeeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03271109506393354557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138232432403720052006-01-25T17:40:00.000-06:002006-01-25T17:40:00.000-06:00The problem of infanticide of female babies in Chi...The problem of infanticide of female babies in China is well known and many are talking about the problems it will create. (Not to mention the morality of it).<BR/><BR/>Here's a <A HREF="http://www.prb.org/presentations/ShortageofGirlsinChina.ppt" REL="nofollow">powerpoint from Population Reference Bureau in Wash DC</A> about it.<BR/><BR/>Do a google search Austin if you doubt it. <BR/><BR/>TheBill Baarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07095486926836836714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138230685337362312006-01-25T17:11:00.001-06:002006-01-25T17:11:00.001-06:00Mayor, justify your "apples and oranges" comment.A...Mayor, justify your "apples and oranges" comment.<BR/><BR/>Anon, justify your "complete nonsense" comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138230680966031102006-01-25T17:11:00.000-06:002006-01-25T17:11:00.000-06:00Don't be so quick to critize. A mid 19th centry re...Don't be so quick to critize. A mid 19th centry rebellion in China was laid in part on the large number of unmarried males. (due then to rich men have multiple wives, who had multiple maids, taking girls "off the market").<BR/><BR/>Don't think for a MOMENT that Beijing is unaware of this. it's also a problem in India.Pat Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08850320212961576918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138230071000228342006-01-25T17:01:00.000-06:002006-01-25T17:01:00.000-06:00This is total and complete nonsense. But, I guess...This is total and complete nonsense. But, I guess that's to be expected from worldnetdaily. Doesn't Jeff Gannon work for them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138229682140431602006-01-25T16:54:00.000-06:002006-01-25T16:54:00.000-06:00"by 2020 there will be more unmarried Chinese men ..."by 2020 there will be more unmarried Chinese men than the total population of females in Taiwan and South Korea combined."<BR/><BR/>To say that this compares apples and oranges would not do justice to this juxtaposed non sequitur.So-Called Austin Mayorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10352094428842715059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14463601.post-1138229585098058642006-01-25T16:53:00.000-06:002006-01-25T16:53:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Skeeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03271109506393354557noreply@blogger.com